Caleb Phillips, the Vice President of Technology at Simple Modern and Mike discuss the challenges and opportunities that arise when integrating technology into a non-tech company, the importance of understanding the business side of technical tools, and how building relationships plays a significant role in successful technology implementations.

Discover how effective communication and building pathways for collaboration can bridge the understanding gap and lead to successful project outcomes. The episode explores topics such as the intersection of credibility and trust, navigating complex projects, and the art of effective communication in leadership.

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